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Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1282	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:22:00 - [1] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Forgot that part Thank for reminding me Ringers wtf I can understand that you bring in a ringer or 2 but the hole team ? If a corp can't stand on it's own it should not be in PC Timers is the best time to attack, maybe in Null-Sec it will be something completely different but for now in Low-Sec, it's safer. Also, stop QQing about ringers. I know you're butthurt but free-lance mercenaries and true mercenary corporations gotta eat too. If a corp doesn't have enough players to bring them in, that's just it. Stop trying to use "honor" for everything. PC should be looked at more like a business opportunity than the strategic reputation builder it is right now. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1285	Posted - 2014.03.09 20:11:00 - [2] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Forgot that part Thank for reminding me Ringers wtf I can understand that you bring in a ringer or 2 but the hole team ? If a corp can't stand on it's own it should not be in PC Timers is the best time to attack, maybe in Null-Sec it will be something completely different but for now in Low-Sec, it's safer. Also, stop QQing about ringers. I know you're butthurt but free-lance mercenaries and true mercenary corporations gotta eat too. If a corp doesn't have enough players to bring them in, that's just it. Stop trying to use "honor" for everything. PC should be looked at more like a business opportunity than the strategic reputation builder it is right now. F U I am entitled to my opinion about the ringers. I respect your opinion but I DONT agree whatsoever. It's TOTALY bonkers that a corp can bring in al but one ringers. Don't give me the business side bla bla bla this is a game if I want to work I go to said work. Also if you have bigger maps ( more players ) and no timers there will be a real hassle to defend a district making PC open to more corps. Not like now where maybee 50 players decide who is going to keep what. It's also lame that PC is short as it is it should fu+ºking go on for a hour or more. ( people leaving and joining during the fight etc etc ) But hey I guess I am butthurt just because I believe that PC as it is today is crap and that I throw out some ruff thoughts on it . Regards Lol you salty, aren't you? Swearing at me and what not lol. You're entitled to your opinions but that doesn't mean your opinion makes sense. It's not bonkers. You disagree but state no proper reason other than you not liking it. Get over yourself. Planetary Conquest is a business opportunity. If you look at it as anything else you won't survive in it for long. Come the time when Planetary Conquest allows for real EVE connection and actually has it's use for EVE players, casual-minded corporations will not be able to gain any holding. The fact that you come up with the BS, "It's a game, if i want work i go to work," means you're just another one of those players who shouldn't even think about it. What the Hell will you do if or when timers are taken away and you must fight constantly or at constantly varying times of the day? It's going to end up more like a job. More players and bigger maps only means that PC will become harder to get into. I don't think you're looking at this properly. We have 16 vs 16 now. Many corps find it hard now to pull in 16 due to players not being as active as they were at the initiation of 1.0. Say we get 32 vs 32. That means corporations and alliances will have to pool in 16 more players than they have now for PC battles and even worse is that they will have to do this at varying times just for one district. Most small corps can't field 32 vs 32 everyday...And even the current big corporations can't operate at all times of the day, which they will have to do when the removal of timer comes around. What it will lead to is the merging of corporations so that all timers will be covered and the number of players needed for each district is continuously met. Small corporations will not be able to get into PC unless they merge and lose their identity OR they have players at all times of the day who hire ringers to fill in the slots. Funny enough, your ideas would only promote ringing even more. In Null-Sec maybe time won't be limited as it is now but the issue with extending PC's time is the extended use of resources. The loss of clones, dropsuits, vehicles, and other assets we will have to pay for later will lead to an ISK sink bigger than what we have already. Small corps who can field 16 players will have even more trouble as they can only gain so much ISK for pubs. They could ring for others and build up funds from that but they're stuck on the idea that ringers ruin the game. Yes, I can easily see that you're butthurt because of the attitude of your posts...I've been here long enough to tell that you're butthurt and why. Still doesn't change the fact that your opinions and ideas conflict with each other and are pretty crappy in quality. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1292	Posted - 2014.03.09 21:49:00 - [3] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Not going quote that long reply. Respect for writing that bro Listen if you are happy with things as they are that fine It's clear to me after reading your post you have been here too long. You are stuck and have no vision time to steep aside old man. No I don't agree with your post it's just a long status q post. The game need to change instead of siting on a high horse you can get down and throw a couple of balls and c where they land at the end. Regards No one's happy with PC right now...Not even those corps exploiting it. You just gave weird nonsensical reasons why it sucks. I've been here long enough to know you're full of it... You're looking to make the game worse and it's not even an arguable. I gave you the reasons why those ideas would make the game worse and how contradictory it is with your ideas of opening up PC to the smaller corps, since they would force small corps to go extinct in PC(as if they already aren't). The pot calling the kettle black here. You're acting like I'm the fool when you don't back up **** and decide to give crap ideas to make for a crap game that would be extremely broken. You get off your high horse and actually realize that you're wrong instead of walking around with your chin up high. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1300	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:32:00 - [4] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Not going quote that long reply. Respect for writing that bro Listen if you are happy with things as they are that fine It's clear to me after reading your post you have been here too long. You are stuck and have no vision time to steep aside old man. No I don't agree with your post it's just a long status q post. The game need to change instead of siting on a high horse you can get down and throw a couple of balls and c where they land at the end. Regards No one's happy with PC right now...Not even those corps exploiting it. You just gave weird nonsensical reasons why it sucks. I've been here long enough to know you're full of it... You're looking to make the game worse and it's not even arguable. I gave you the reasons why those ideas would make the game worse and how contradictory it is with your ideas of opening up PC to the smaller corps, since they would force small corps to go extinct in PC(as if they already aren't). The pot calling the kettle black here. You're acting like I'm the fool when you don't back up **** and decide to give crap ideas to make for a crap game that would be extremely broken. You get off your high horse and actually realize that you're wrong instead of walking around with your chin up high. Where did I post that " opening PC to smaller corps ?" Dude my English is not the best but stop posting that I have written stuff that I clearly haven't ! Again I want PC to be bigger/grander I want PC to have more players in it I want PC to be longer I want PC not to be a mirror of skirm I don't want 15 out of 16 players to be ringers I want the timers removed Now you might not agree on al or some and that's perfectly okey. If this is me being full of it so be it. However I am saying this knowingly that there is contradictions in dose statements but to bandy ides around starts buy puting contradictions against one and other. If I do this what comes out and is it worth it ? Discussions should be long and difficult, and many thouts will be bandied about ( and out ). But then to bandy ides with a witless worm as your self is pointless since you don't know anything about that art. You just slander and take it personal. Again I hear and respect what you are saying but I TOTALY and utterly disagree on it Regards Edit : yeah I hate PC in its current form Earlier on you were talking about how it was closed off and static. I take it personal because despite the respect you keep claiming to give, you're still being hostile and essentially calling me a know it all, when I'm perfectly fine with listening to an argument. Remember, "F U I can have my own opinion," hmm? And no you shouldn't put contradictions together like so because it leads to weak arguments. You want less ringing but want a harder PC with an extended time, team limit, and no timers. Those three things will make PC get locked up by even less people than it's locked by now or amplify the need for ringers. If you release these limits for just Null-Sec it would be fine but you're talking about all of PC. And besides all of the contradictions the updates for PC will come later. Bigger maps and all of that. You don't have to state your dislike of not having it right now because it's useless. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1309	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:55:00 - [5] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Not going quote that long reply. Respect for writing that bro Listen if you are happy with things as they are that fine It's clear to me after reading your post you have been here too long. You are stuck and have no vision time to steep aside old man. No I don't agree with your post it's just a long status q post. The game need to change instead of siting on a high horse you can get down and throw a couple of balls and c where they land at the end. Regards No one's happy with PC right now...Not even those corps exploiting it. You just gave weird nonsensical reasons why it sucks. I've been here long enough to know you're full of it... You're looking to make the game worse and it's not even arguable. I gave you the reasons why those ideas would make the game worse and how contradictory it is with your ideas of opening up PC to the smaller corps, since they would force small corps to go extinct in PC(as if they already aren't). The pot calling the kettle black here. You're acting like I'm the fool when you don't back up ** and decide to give crap ideas to make for a crap game that would be extremely broken. You get off your high horse and actually realize that you're wrong instead of walking around with your chin up high. Where did I post that " opening PC to smaller corps ?" Dude my English is not the best but stop posting that I have written stuff that I clearly haven't ! Again I want PC to be bigger/grander I want PC to have more players in it I want PC to be longer I want PC not to be a mirror of skirm I don't want 15 out of 16 players to be ringers I want the timers removed Now you might not agree on al or some and that's perfectly okey. If this is me being full of it so be it. However I am saying this knowingly that there is contradictions in dose statements but to bandy ides around starts buy puting contradictions against one and other. If I do this what comes out and is it worth it ? Discussions should be long and difficult, and many thouts will be bandied about ( and out ). But then to bandy ides with a witless worm as your self is pointless since you don't know anything about that art. You just slander and take it personal. Again I hear and respect what you are saying but I TOTALY and utterly disagree on it Regards Edit : yeah I hate PC in its current form Earlier on you were talking about how it was closed off and static. I take it personal because despite the respect you keep claiming to give, you're still being hostile and essentially calling me a know it all, when I'm perfectly fine with listening to an argument. Remember, "F U I can have my own opinion," hmm? And no you shouldn't put contradictions together like so because it leads to weak arguments. You want less ringing but want a harder PC with an extended time, team limit, and no timers. Those three things will make PC get locked up by even less people than it's locked by now or amplify the need for ringers. If you release these limits for just Null-Sec it would be fine but you're talking about all of PC. And besides all of the contradictions the updates for PC will come later. Bigger maps and all of that. You don't have to state your dislike of not having it right now because it's useless. Roy you are a pice of work. Before you got a FU you wrote " stop QQing about ringers" and "you are butthurt" Makes me wounder it you are the one who is butthurt. If your realy want a more polite and nice reply maybee you shoud think about what manner your own replyes are written. My original post was not intended as a personal insult to you. But your first reply was al personal and insulting. Basicly you got in a STFU I DONT LIKE YOUR POST MODE and I returned it on the the same manner bud. Your last post is in the same tone saying my opinions are useless. Makes me wonder who you think you are and in what right you type in that manner? I am done with you sorry escuse of a human being. You may type whatever you want in whatever slandering way you are just not worth the time and effort any more. Regards +1 "QQ" and "butthurt" are pretty neutral in most circles. Maybe I'm used to most people not giving a damn but I can't imagine those two words being worthy of a ** you response. Sure, sure maybe it was improper to respond to you like that but considering that you started this thread with a bunch of ranting, I thought my post was pretty much "nicer." If you didn't come in here ranting, you wouldn't have gotten treated that way, at least by me. Plenty others do it, and plenty other people get the same type of responses. Oh. But now you're one for being nice...lol. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

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